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True Costs of Using Recycled Materials

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Hey Lloyd Kahn, Thanks again for all your hard work, you inspire us! I have noticed a lot of articles in the tiny home archives over the years mentioning such statements as "Man builds tiny home for $500..." what about his total labor time, and those often overlooked overhead costs... do you find such a statement at all misleading? I am a licensed builder myself, running a company in Portland, OR and feel as tho I often have to re-educate clients as to what the "actual costs" of construction really are (mostly the cost of my Time.) This conversation inevitably arises when during design phase we discuss the option of reclaimed materials... which almost always ends up costing more $ (sourcing, milling, install.) Hooray for folks who are living their dreams building a place of their own with their "free time", but let's also paint a realistic picture by including the price of time, and thus value the craft appropriately. As a builder yourself, any of your thoughts would be appreciated.
-Kiel Kellow

Kiel, You're absolutely right, the costs (as here) are way more than $500 if you consider labor. Time is precious.
-Lloyd

6 comments:

Justin.Hanseth said...

Having seen some of Kiel Kellow's work in and around PDX, I can attest his time it worth a lot! What incredible work. Very inspiring.

PG Geoff said...

Another issue I think is usually overlooked is the true hard costs of recycled material such as fuel used to retrieve the materials, energy costs for refurbishing, etc. It's not always as easy as driving to your local reclamation yard and picking up the sink or window you need. . While it may sound groovy to be able to say you sided your house in recycled barn wood I suspect it represents greater consumption of fuel, energy and time spent. When managed responsibly wood is a wonderfully renewable resource

dweeze (Johnno) said...

I'm currently in the final throes of building my own house. Some new materials, some recycled. I've spent 4 years of site time so far and look like being at it for 6 months more. If I was contracting out all of the tasks, the build would be well over double in cost. I had the option of staying in a high pressure / high earner job and paying someone else to do it all. However, when we did the sums, it made economic sense to forgo income and build an asset instead. If we had to sell up 12 months from now, we would still (just) be ahead financially VS having paid a builder to do it.

What I hadn't really counted on was the immense satisfaction gained from learning and doing all of the building tasks - this alone is worth all of the (physical, mental and emotional) pain.

The old adage - "time is money" - never said whether it was money saved or money spent!

Kentucky Shark said...

It all depends what you are looking for. For example, i was building some raised beds for my backyard this year. I noticed a neighbor down the street replacing a fence and asked about the old panel boards and they let me take what I wanted. I DIDN'T need raised beds built to last. I saved money, time, and waste.

Kiel said...
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Kiel said...

KielMarch 16, 2017 at 12:16 PM
Yo Dweeze, firstly congrats on building your own home, I feel it's truly an experience in life that most men (and maybe women too) deeply desire to fulfill.
Also lucky you that you had the choice to be able to leave work and financially afford the project plus your living expenses, I'm jelly :). I do agree that the experience is well worth the cost of ones time.
So, to keep on the topic of this thread, regarding Actual costs of building, I'm really curious how much your project has cost (time, materials, and overhead). Have you calculated the hours you have spent? When I build professionally I bill out at $65/hr, when I am in planning stage for work on my own home I factor my rate at a conservative $20/hr cash (I chose that amt because at full time will cover my personal expenses and overhead.).
So if you were to tally the time you spent on your project (design, managing subs, material runs, head scratching, actual work, etc) and set a rate relative to your ability plus life expenses ($15-$25), while also taking into account the lost wages from leaving your 9-5er. I'm curious to see if you are actually correct in your statement that you found it to be more economical than hiring a contractor.
Let us know if you have any numbers to share with us, I'm super curious. And I'd love to see the finished product also!

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